Billionaire businessman Donald Trump, who staged a weeks-long public campaign questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president during March and April – and rose to the top of the pool of potential candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination then as a result – says he believes the "birth certificate" released by the White House is forged.Just in case your search comes up with Huffington Post version and analysis.
Thursday, May 26, 2011
The Plain Truth: You're forged! Trump declares Obama's birth certificate fake
The Plain Truth: You're forged! Trump declares Obama's birth certificate fake
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ReplyDeletehttp://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/round-two-donald-trump-declares-obamas.html
THREE Republican officials in Hawaii have confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii. Notices of Obama's birth appeared in the newspapers in 1961. And they were not ads that could have been purchased by the family. Hawaii newspapers did not run birth notice ads in 1961. They only took their notices from the Hawaii government, which did not issue them for births outside of Hawaii, and which demanded proof whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital.
ReplyDeleteThe birth certificate was not forged. The director of health of Hawaii certified in writing that she had seen the document being copied and that the copy was exactly the same as the original. At least two Republican officials had stated that they had seen the original. So, if there were anything different between the original and what they saw, they could have said, and they said nothing.
And numerous document experts have said that the document was not forged:
For example:
Dr. Neal Krawetz (http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/428-After-Birth.html)
And the conservative National Review : http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-l...
And:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/29/fox-exp...
Same old spin. Just more outdated.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the update.
I was wondering if there was anyone still left that believed Resident Obama is Constitutional and not a Fraud.
Looks like there is one left.
Not a single member of Congress (and there are 535 members, one hundred senators and 435 members of the House) has called for an investigation of the document or of Obama's place of birth. Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly all call birthers crazy. Mike Huckabee, Tim Pawlenty, Rudi Guiliani, and virtually all the Republican candidates have accepted that Obama was born in the USA.
ReplyDeleteThey are wrong about a lot of other things too.
ReplyDeleteFacts aren't a popularity contest of selected names and no names.
If facts mattered LTC Lakin would have won too.
What facts do you have? All I see is media spin.
What facts do you have? If you had facts that could answer this, please show them.
ReplyDeleteIt should be obvious that a child born outside of the USA requires either a US visa on a foreign passport or to be entered on the mother’s US passport to get to the USA. Those documents or the applications for them would still exist and would have been found easily IF Obama was born outside of the USA. But no such document has been found.
What is your explanation of this? Please show some facts that could explain Obama getting from a foreign country to Hawaii without either a US visa or his being entered on the passport of his mother, or why no such document has been found.
Then, explain this:
There were notices of Obama’s birth in the newspapers in Hawaii in 1961. And these were not ads placed by relatives. They could not have been ads because the Hawaii newspapers did not accept birth notice ads in 1961. They only took the official notices sent to them by the government of Hawaii, which only sent out the notices for births IN Hawaii. And, the government could not have been fooled by a claim of a birth at home because in those cases it demanded witness statements.
What is the explanation? Some birthers have claimed that the government of Hawaii did not check claims of births outside of a hospital (but it did). Others have said that the government of Hawaii simply accepted all the claims of birth in Hawaii that relatives made without checking them (but indeed it did check).
So Obama's parents would have had to have (1) traveled to Kenya or some other country late in pregnancy at high risk and high expense (particularly to Kenya); (2) got the child back to the USA without either a visa or his being entered on his mother's US passport or somehow had the files of the document and the applications for the document all sealed; (3) lied about the place of birth (which is also unlikely because when you have done something interesting like give birth in a foreign country you generally boast about it. And it is also unnecessary to lie since for all purposes but the presidency a naturalized child is as good as a natural born one); (4) gotten away with the lie despite evidence that Hawaii demanded witness statements whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital; (5) got three Republican officials in Hawaii to lie about the fact that the original birth certificate in Obama's files verified that he was born in Hawaii.
ALL of that would have had to have happened for Obama to have been born outside of the USA. No wonder the mainstream media dismissed the idea out of hand.
That is logic, not media spin. And, since Ann Coulter and the others know all of the above FACTS--the absence of the visa or passport, the presence of the notices in the newspapers, the confirmation of three Republican officials--these facts are among the reasons why she and the others all call birthers crazy.
That is the problem, there are no facts to support his legitimacy.
ReplyDeleteHe has paid over $2 Mil to keep them hidden.
You can kiss his a.. if you want to, but count me out.
The $2 million figure is a BIRTHER creation. It is a lie.
ReplyDeleteThe facts are that three Republican officials in Hawaii confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii. The facts are that Obama's birth notice appeared in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 and that it was not an could not have been (since the newspapers did not take birth notice ads) an advertisement. It came from the government of Hawaii, which did not send out those notices for births outside of Hawaii, and which checked on claims of birth outside of a hospital.
And there was no visa or US passport or Obama being entered on his mother's US passport to get him from a foreign country to Hawaii.
All these are FACTS.
Just follow the verifiable paper trail, not the toilet paper trail you are leaving.
ReplyDeleteThat trail stinks.
Dream on.
ReplyDeleteThe $2 million figure is a BIRTHER creation. It is a lie.
The facts are that three Republican officials in Hawaii confirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii. The facts are that Obama's birth notice appeared in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 and that it was not an could not have been (since the newspapers did not take birth notice ads) an advertisement. It came from the government of Hawaii, which did not send out those notices for births outside of Hawaii, and which checked on claims of birth outside of a hospital.
And there was no visa or US passport or Obama being entered on his mother's US passport to get him from a foreign country to Hawaii.
All these are FACTS.