This is for those who claim the 14th Amendment as justification.
Obama May Be a Born Naturalized Citizen but Not a Natural Born Citizen
In America, there are only two types of citizens. One type is a naturalized citizen which the Constitution, treaties, and Congressional Acts call a “citizen of the United States.” The other type is a natural born citizen which Article II calls a "natural born Citizen." "The Constitution of the United States recognizes the division of the people into the two classes named by Blackstone - natural born and naturalized citizens." Rep. Wilson Cong. Globe, 39th Cong., 1st Sess. 1116 (1866). Only a “natural born Citizen” is eligible to be President under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5. A naturalized citizen, whether naturalized at birth or after birth, is not so eligible. The "natural born Citizen" clause is nothing more than the people of the United States expressing their power of self-preservation.
A naturalized citizen, whether at birth or after birth, is made by positive law, to wit, the 14th Amendment which makes born naturalized citizens and treaties or acts made by Congress, which makes both born and after-born naturalized citizens under its Article I, Section 8, Clause 4 power to make uniform the laws of naturalization.
A natural born citizen is made by nature and not by any positive law such as the 14th Amendment, treaties, or Congressional acts. The overwhelming majority of citizens are natural born citizens. If a person needs the 14th Amendment, a treaty, or Congressional act to make him or her a citizen, then that person cannot be a natural born citizen. Also, Congress or a court could for some social or political reason enact some law denying a natural born citizen that very status but to do so would be contrary to the law of nature and also unconstitutional. ...
Every constitutional amendment has its own meaning and value and must be interpreted and understood in light of the purpose for which it was passed. The 14th Amendment was not passed to amend the meaning of an Article II "natural born Citizen." Rather, it was passed to allow those who were born in the United States subject to its jurisdiction and who could not become "natural born Citizens" or even "citizens of the United States"-- because having been born to parents who were themselves not considered to be "natural born Citizens" or even "citizens of the United States" even though born in the United States subject to its jurisdiction or who under our naturalization laws could not even become naturalized citizens of the United States--to become "citizens of the United States."
Sunday, January 2, 2011
Natural Born Citizen - A Place to Ask Questions and Get the Right Answers: Obama May Be a Born Naturalized Citizen but Not a Natural Born Citizen
Natural Born Citizen - A Place to Ask Questions and Get the Right Answers: Obama May Be a Born Naturalized Citizen but Not a Natural Born Citizen
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Re the natural law baloney. Who told you that the citizenship of Obama's father affects Obama's Natural Born Citizen status? It is wrong.
ReplyDeleteThe Wall Street Journal put it this way: "Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other. “Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."
And the CONSERVATIVE Heritage Foundation put it this way:
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."---William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)
Quote from your own BS:
ReplyDelete(other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats)
Obama was not the child of an enemy alien or of a foreign diplomat. He was born in the USA. He is therefore a Natural Born US Citizen.
ReplyDeleteThat is why the US Congress voted to confirm his election UNANIMOUSLY.
Obama wrote in his own book that he was born a dual citizen of the U.S. and Great Britain due to the fact his father was a subject of the British crown when Obama was born.
ReplyDeleteRead more: Meet the House party crasher, the U.S. House, that is http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=248277#ixzz1AMcGao5A
Yes, he did. And the reason that he did is that dual citizenship, like the citizenship of a parent has no effect on Natural Born Citizen status.
ReplyDeleteTo think that it does implies that a foreign law can decide which of two US-born citizens are eligible to be president. We have never and do not now allow foreign laws to have that kind of power.
By the way, did you know that Thomas Jefferson actually was a dual citizen of France when he was president--having received full (not just honorary) citizenship of France by act of the French revolutionary National Assembly.
Neither dual nationality nor the citizenship of a parent has any effect on Natural Born Citizen status.